While I choose to be optimistic, I also recognize that the likelihood this is real is small compared to all the other possibilities: Error in interpretation, error in data, flawed experimental concept, and (yes, sadly) fraud. What will get my heart pumping is if the teams that try to replicate these results begin reporting success - at that point Professor Arata can seriously begin planning his Nobel Prize acceptance speech.

Rigatoni

@gizmodohomepage: The "cold" in "cold fusion" is to differentiate it from normal "hot" fusion reactions that require huge temperatures and pressures to create the reaction. Er, like the sun, for example. The goal of both is to generate excess heat, i.e., energy.

Thud

@Subterfuge: I believe that global warming criticism is largely a reaction to the socialist packaging in which documentation is usually presented. When someone tells people that they must do (or not do) certain things, outright rejection of the claims is much more common than a nuanced analysis of the evidence, its significance, and the proposed response.

gibson042

............
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............WHAT THE HELL is cold fusion going to do....NOTHING!!! We need HOT fusion to boil the water to steam up the generators to make electricity. Cold fusion would do what, keep you cat warm????

FISSION is how we get power people. Heat. Unless cold fusion sends an electric current it is pointless.

gizmodohomepage

I wonder if some 'tiny fact' was 'accidentally' left out of the reportage, such as the "pressure forcing deuterium gas into an evacuated cell that contained a palladium and zirconium oxide" was derived from a 70 mega electron volt linear accellerator...?

For2itous

I'll call BS.

I'm inherently suspicious of scientific "breakthroughs" that are not peer-reviewed, but rather flaunted to the press. Same thing that Fleishmann and Pons did, and I expect the same result in this case.

Thud

@Rustabout: Do you honestly think a shortage would cause WW3? Wouldn't a shortage do the exact opposite? I mean, why waste your fuel on a pointless war when you could use it where it mattered. Like at home? (I use "home" in a very broad general sense, like my home is the United States of America... )

Now, common sense tells me that there is a limit to the fuel that will come out of the ground, as far as oil goes. Nothing last forever.(I have heard that old phrase so many times)

Anyways, I am with you as far as a supplemental energy source that is green. I hope more advancements in solar happen. Right now it's not the do all kill all, but with more advancements it could be a whole lot more efficient. And it will be even better when the batteries that hold the energy, either get larger and better or smaller and better. I don't really care which route that goes. GeoThermal I think is a good deal as well. Of course like with all alternatives to fossil fuels, there going to work better in some areas while not working so good in others.

@Article: I hope this is true is all I can say. Why? Because I support breakthroughs in science that deal with energy.

-Core-

@centerpeace: @GhostofCharlesBronson: You're both wrong it was Tim Robbin's Sci-Fi Romance movie: "I.Q."

Asvetic

WRONG! MacGyver did it in episode 132 with a live badger, a roll of Mentos and Chuck Norris' urin.

N@tedog

@MaudeQuadratus

Thank you, extremely interesting, Giz Should really update with your links. Still working my way through the reading.

johcagaorl

Hi folks, My what an entertaining bunch of messages. Sorry to break it up with a bit of sobriety, but I thought you might want to see our article about this low-energy nuclear reaction demonstration http://newenergytimes.com/news/2008/29img/Arata-Demo.htm . Unlike the other articles some folks have noticed, we're not hyping this as "cold fusion." Nuclear, yes, but not fusion. If you're new to all of this, I encourage you to check out this page http://newenergytimes.com/Reports/Start.htm . If it doesn't answer all your questions, shoot me a PM and I'll do what I can to give you an answer. Steven B. Krivit Editor, New Energy Times

MaudeQuadratus

@hnkelley:
A flan is yellow (ish) and a crème brûlée white. I've tasted a crème, before torching and it doesn't taste like a flan. I have no scientific evidence to shoulder my claim other than my taste buds.

As a Petroleum Engineer with 10 years' experience all over the world, I am amazed some people still believe there is an unlimited supply of oil, or that shale will actually make a big difference (btw it is economic at 100+$), when faced with the incredible rise of Chinese and Indian demand for oil these are like the proverbial drop of water on a hot stone. At best, the shale, the ultra-deep, ultra-acid and very remote fields will slow down the advent of Peak-Oil by a few years which hopefully will give us time to develop something else, the alternative beeing WW3.

Rustabout

@tehronin: shale oil has just about the same energy density as a potato, is heavy, very expensive and energy intensive to extract, and sits under some of the best farmland in the world. It sure is good stuff. It's not going to be the primary replacement for cheap oil, it will never be extracted at the rates required. In situ extraction looks promising but requires large amounts of fresh water, also not so good.

DrNick

I call BS on this story - if something as profound as this were true it would be all over the news, but I only see 2 mentions (here and Slashdot - from a vague Italian source). It would be a nice pipe dream though...

EnochLight

@Nick_Bentley:"splitting a nutter butter open, and an oreo cookie, then combining a half of each with either creamy filling or nutter butter filling,"

God, that sounds good. To the store!

GadgetPlay

Well I'm not gonna nay say and just wait and see if it pans out and they can prove it to the people who really know about these things. In the meantime we can keep creating thermal fusion reactions by splitting a nutter butter open, and an oreo cookie, then combining a half of each with either creamy filling or nutter butter filling, then consuming several until the gaseous thermal uptake is released, providing enough energy for everyone to leave the room.

Nick_Bentley

"producing a nuclear reaction at room temperature"

Is it me or do unstable particles do this at room temperature all the time?

I doubt this technology will be difficult to shrink down at first, meaning that the energy produced will be distributed via the power grid, meaning that I should save up for a Tesla Roadster.

Ah, to live in fantasy land.

jamesuschrist

There are technologies being developed to turn shale into gases and oil. One is a company that shoots various microwave frequencies at the shale to separate/break it into smaller components. That one works really good and works on trash also. Cold Fusion is really not a good term because really the temperature at the very center where the little electric arcs are occuring under heavy water are in fact very hot. Helium 3 on the moon is very valuable as the only safe nuclear reactor material. Cold fusion actually continously transmutes anything in the water into something else. Whenever they analyze the "water" after hours of running the process they always find excess levels of various elements on the chart of elements that were never in the water to begin with and often have the wrong amount of protons meaning they are a rare isotope and completely unexplainable. there are lots of white papers being written all the time on cold fusion experiments, go find them.

aironeous

@tehronin: "I wouldn't think of it in terms of an "oil war", but a RESOURCE war."

If we're getting technical, all wars are resource wars. Even religious conflicts are pretexts for resource gain like the Crusades, and the very few "pure" religious conflicts in history are technically fights about human resources - either swelling your own ranks or pre-emptively denying the enemy the chance to swell theirs.

Killjoy

@macrumpton: entropy

jkr2

What kind of waste products are we talking about here?

frndlybnny

None of this will matter when it's finally discovered that melanin is a top-notch fuel source. I'm screwed.

Kaiser-Machead

@SalParadise: Gas is over $4.00 a gallon and zero press coverage. What does that tell you?

It tells me that you don't watch the news.

cac67

@bosskev:
Woohoo! Thanks dude. Love the turban.

@frigg:
ditto bosskev... c'est fantastique (phrase chosen carefully to avoid funny characters)

scarbrtj

@-AP-: Exactly which law of thermodynamics were you referring to?

macrumpton

@SalParadise: $4 a gallon for gas? That tells us that your gas is dirt cheap and you should be greatful you dont pay $10,50 gallon, like we do in Norway. And we are the third biggest oilexporter in the world!

Ill put a gallon cold fusion on my car any day!

Mr500

In 10 years we'll have small cold fusion reactors to power up our.. cellphones? Notebooks?

"Recharging? What was that again?"

Bokusatsu_Tenshi

Cool fusion is a better term..., it's actual name is muon catalyzed fusion.

Muon-catalyzed fusion (μCF) is a process allowing nuclear fusion to take place at temperatures significantly lower than the temperatures required for thermonuclear fusion, even at room temperature or lower. Although it can be produced reliably with the right equipment and has been much studied, it is believed that the poor energy balance will prevent it from ever becoming a practical power source. However, if negatively charged muons (μ−) could be made more cheaply and efficiently somehow and/or if virtually every one made could somehow be used to catalyze as many nuclear fusion reactions as possible, the energy balance might improve enough for muon-catalyzed fusion to become a practical power source. It used to be known as cold fusion; however, this term is now avoided as it can create confusion with other suggested forms of room-temperature fusion that are rejected by mainstream science. A much more appropriate name would be cool fusion, particularly if muon-catalyzed fusion ever did become a practical power source.
[en.wikipedia.org]

And still they fuse...

Gary_7vn

@tehronin: "shale oil USED to be more expensive to refine when oil was 20 dollars a barrel, you are correct. However, with oil nearing $200 for crude it is now economically viable to refine shale, and refinery techniques are getting better as well."

but the problem is that the price of energy has also increased, increasing the cost of extracting the shale oil. they are not independent variables. and even if it eventually managed to tip into the positive range, an energy source that requires only marginally less energy to extract than it produces means it only marginally provides energy. and this particular one, in the process, would produce tons of extra pollutants in the air. that doesn't sound like a net gain to me. in fact, it sounds like a big net loss.

Accelerata

@GadgetPlay:

yes we do have to do something about man-bear-pig

and i am serial about that!!!

godwhacker

Screenshot or it didn't happen.

LJN

Sound like GW should have discovered WMD in Brazil!!!

sfokevin

I remember the first time I achieved cold fusion: picking up a bunch of ice cubes with wet hands.

A Christmas Story anyone? The pole and Flick's tongue also achieved cold fusion, although at a temperature thought to be 30 degrees F (colder than room temperature).

Sora57

Gas is over $4.00 a gallon and zero press coverage. What does that tell you?

I'm still waiting for the results at Steorn to be reported (now 5 months overdue), but I suspect they will be reported before we hear anymore about this!

SalParadise

If it is truly "highly reproducible" we should see reports from scientists all over the world confirming within a month or so. However, I highly suspect we will NOT see this.

nobodyzhome

@Subterfuge: Nice to meet you, we'll play again sometime. It's fun!

GadgetPlay

@shenanigans61: You're right. Recently, I was sitting at a nice restaurant in Paris having creme brulee for dessert when it suddenly dawned on me (ya, I'm slow sometimes) that it's the same as one of my other favorite desserts, flan. Creme brulee is flan after torching the top! Oh, and the other important difference is the tripling of the price. I wonder if the local Mexican eateries will complain when I bring my propane torch.

hnkelley

@tehronin:
It may now be financially feasible to extract oil from oil shale, but they also said that in the 70's. The problem is that in the past OPEC has been very good at bringing down the price of oil just as the alternates became viable. No investors means no alternatives. That could be why the OPEC chief recently said:

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OPEC chief Abdala El Badri on Thursday said members were unhappy with surging prices he blamed on speculators and a weak US dollar.
"We are not very happy with this increase in oil prices," said El-Badri during a visit to Ecuador.
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It's quite possible that world demand is now so large that they really can't bring down the price of oil by a significant amount and that what they are unhappy about is the fact that the alternative now may become economically viable.

Oh, and the other silver lining in this is that we may be running short on helium resources that are found underground hidden in natural gas deposits and the like. I don't know how much helium a cold fusion reactor might generate but I sure hope it's a lot. It would also be nice if we could keep fusing up the chain until the reactors poop out gold nuggets. That would be awesome!

GiltProto

Actually, I think Cold Fusion will cause all of the graviton particles we've been looking for to pop out at once and cause a micro-black-hole that will be just barely big enough to swallow the entire universe.

Subterfuge

@Origamido: Here we disagree. I believe that the supply of reactor material far surpasses the demand. And by supply I'm referring to known deposits. I also disagree that the only issue is the supply of fissionable material. The true issue is political.
******
As far as the comment above about cold fusion not adhering to the laws of thermo dynamics. Those arguing that it was a bad statement seemed to ignore the word "cold" in "cold fusion". I personally think this cold fusion thing is a fraud, but I also thought that the knock off mac's were also a hoax, and I was wrong there.
@maximumleo:
all nuclear reactions produce radioactive byproducts, heck chemical explosions like dynamite leaves radioactive remnants, but just a guess, fusion byproducts would make a Geiger counter count lots of Geigers.

jkr2

Hey, if this guy has really done what he says, he is going to be very very rich..

Zanderkinn

@GadgetPlay:
(First. To step off the self-righteous pedestal that I am not on let me tell you I have central air yet still have two window conditioners in my house. I have two computers that are powerful enough to heat up my office so much that I crack open the window in icy january. I am waste incarnate, but wholeheartedly admit that I have to do better.) Onward then...

Economy vs Existence

Look at a fresh orange and then at a rotting orange that is being consumed. Now, look at a picture of the dark side of earth at night.

For all intents and purposes God created mold. "She" made mold with the power to think for itself though. When the orange is consumed there is no more fruit in the basket because the rest are wax and plastic. This mold even has the power to regenerate the orange but if it is too short sighted and only concerned about the here and now, or if it continues to consume faster than it can regenerate then there is no more mold either.

FYI, I'm talking about a lot more than just global warming. This is about stewardship and I'm pretty sure there is a chapter about that in the bible. We are more than business and I KNOW there are quite a few chapters about that in the bible.

Actually screw it. I'm going to be self-righteous. I was born catholic and gave it up once I decided to stop being 'used' for political purposes and learned to see things with my own eyes and not through someone else's glasses. "Of course he doesn't believe in God." I know you're looking for your lost little sheep that all non-religious people are (been there!) but there is nobody here except someone who is concerned about our survival as humans. Only we the people have the power to save ourselves.

On that note: Go Fusion! (See, I'm on topic)

Subterfuge

Upcoming oil wars? I wouldn't think of it in terms of an "oil war", but a RESOURCE war. Oil, food, clean water in certain regions...

tehronin

@thechansen: Upcoming oil wars? By upcoming I presume you mean 20 years old.

Any ways, cold fusion, me like! Strong nuclear force may come in handy on iphone 3 with GPS and 3G

Mr500

@shenanigans61:

A little fruit to garnish and liven it up would also please me. Blueberries maybe ... or raspberries.

Jesustron

@frigg: It's really nothing more than a custard, coated in a carmelized sugar layer. Really, all you need is a $20 kitchen torch, a creme brulee mix, and ramekins. Hell, if you want to go even cheaper, broiling in the oven eliminates the need for a kitchen torch.
I love creme brulee...
Oh, yeah....cold fusion...yeah...

shenanigans61

@jkr2: The only issue with fission is the supply of fissile material. Fissile uranium and plutonium are not abundant elements, and breeder reactors can only produce so much. The demand for nuclear materials is increasing and the supply is decreasing. Putting the waste it produces aside, fissile materials are a non-renewable resource and will eventually be cost-prohibitive.

Origamido

@Subterfuge:"I don't understand anyone that is cynical about global warming evidence."

To what evidence do you refer?

"I don't believe in god [sic]..."

Of course not. She does however, speak very highly of you.

"...but I call them like I see them."

New glasses may be in order. You're being used for political purposes. You are possibly not a "ninnie," and undoubtedly are a kind and caring individual, as are those of us that are "cynical" about the notion that a very short term, very small, somewhat doubtful increase in temperature is an adequate reason to turn the world upside down and ruin it's economy, RIGHT THIS VERY MINUTE.

That being said, we MUST do something about the "Man-Bear-Pig."

GadgetPlay

@Elliuotatar: Exactly. If fusion violated the laws of thermodynamics then the sun wouldn't shine. Apparently the only place the sun doesn't shine is between some of these poster's ears... because they've got their heads up their asses.

Burn more oil, Destroy the environment! It's our God given right as Americans! You know, you'd think "conservatives" would be the ultimate environmentalists... good stewards of God's creation and all that. But no, they just like to see things blow up... in their cars and in the other nations that have "our" oil.

Cold fusion or some other form of non-destructive alternative energy would mean the end of the all those lovely explosions and that's got them feeling all soft and flaccid, I suppose.

inkswitch

@Linux_all_the_way: Hyper Ninnies?

Maybe they would just be happy and thankful that we finally have a much cleaner and abundant source of energy.

I don't understand anyone that is cynical about global warming evidence. Even if it doesn't exist we will have a much cleaner world to live in. Wouldn't you feel a lot better about yourself? Maybe not because it sounds like you're not proactively following any energy saving suggestions anyway--not for you, but for all of us. Maybe I'm wrong though...

I also don't understand people that are willing to just write off our planet with no concern or sense of responsibility. Some refer to 'survival of the fittest'. Earth needs to exercise and cut down on the carb(on)s.

This is the only planet we've got. I don't believe in god but it really is a miracle that we are even here. Look up at the stars at night. Get some perspective outside of everyday human cynicism. Our galaxy alone isn't even equivalent to a spec of dust on a spec of dust compared to the entire universe.

We are small. We are fragile. Some act like we've been here since the beginning of time and always will be. Head meet sand.

I'm nowhere near some hippie activist but I call them like I see them.

Subterfuge

I was born in '89, and I definitely don't consider myself "decades old" :D

fudged71

@bosskev: Thanks... I try not to be too diacritical of my friends, but I do pour them on liberally with desert.

frigg

@fr0stb1t3: Brazil doesn't need to touch their oil fields because they have sugar fields. And they are practically energy independent because of that. Sounds like target número uno to hit in the upcoming oil wars.

thechansen

@frigg: Fun comment, but I was far more impressed by your taking the time to type (and correctly use) three different diacriticals with crème brûlée. Outstanding!

(Clarification for the red states: diacriticals are those damn for'in'r doodads infiltratin' our language.)

(and with massive apologies to robinandtami in Alabama)

bosskev

Did anyone think of Iron Man's arc generator when they mentioned palladium??

HoneyCadoodling

Shale oil USED to be more expensive to refine when oil was 20 dollars a barrel, you are correct. However, with oil nearing $200 for crude it is now economically viable to refine shale, and refinery techniques are getting better as well.

tehronin

@scarbrtj: More like cold fusion will transform the crème brûlée into the cupcake of the 21st century. Thanks to cold fusion, everyone will soon be able to enjoy this restaurant quality desert at home.

frigg

I want a cold fusion battery for my friggin laptop man. And my cellphone, and my Cowon D2 and Q5. And my house. car.. stove.

FinalValgas

@jkr2: I agree that fission is probably the most viable option atm, but if we move many years from now into the future (lets say 30 odd) we are still gonna need new means of energy production. Deuterium is abundant in the ocean and will remain in sufficient supply for fusion reactors for many moons to come. Uranium reactors are, lets face it, still producing vast quantities of waste per annum, and despite many efforts worldwide to solve this issue storage will always be a problem. Fusion produces no harmful waste products so it is the way to go. My $0.02.

maximumleo

@scarbrtj: "Cold fusion will power Steorn's Orbo."

* chuckles warmly *
* clears throat *
Cold fusion will not power Steorn's constant motion Orbo, which is, of course and quite obviously, based upon the principle of time variant magneto-mechanical interactions converting mechanical energy into electrical energy initially using stop-start mechanisms with a power density of 0.5 Watts per cm cubed. However, that's not to say cold fusion has no future, it will be used to drive your garden variety flux capacitors.

* sighs *
Some people just have no head for science.

Congrats, scarbrtj, on the well-deserved star!

bosskev

what's wrong w/ good old fashioned hot fission? Billions of dollars spent on a state of the art nuclear waste disposal site in the mid-west, one that should last for a million years, and it's empty. Not in my backyard, or a mile under it either. believe it or not kiddies, but nuclear power is the cleanest, cheapest power source out there. 1/8th of US power is still nuclear. Considering that a new nuclear plant hasn't been built in decades.

jkr2

@hnkelley: "Besides, why continue dinging the environment?"

There's the problem. Too many people think that drilling our own oil is "bad for the environment." Shale oil is not a non-starter because of expense, it's because it won't be needed for a century or more.

@GiltProto: "what will the hyper ninnies upset about the scam of global warming have to be upset about?"

That's an easy one! They'll blame "Cold" Fusion for the falling temperatures leading to the coming ice age.

GadgetPlay

The methods used by Pons and Fleischmann were pretty inherently reproducible, too, it didn't make it any easier for people to actually find the same result. I'll reserve optimism until someone actually does pull it off again.

Sockatume

The fact that this was first announced in front of a large number of reporters and TV news crews makes me suspicious. Good, solid science gets reported in peer-reviewed publications, not the 11 o'clock news. It may be that their results were revolutionary enough that they couldn't find a journal that would publish them. Certainly most would be highly wary. But does anyone actually expect some cub reporter to be able to check a professional physicist's science? And despite this article claiming that the results are "reproducible", there's no mention of any other lab being able to do so. Until that happens on a widespread scale, this has little, if any, more validity than the original experiments.

icelight

Can someone hold my coat while I invent something I,l call ..the steam engine

fastmike

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof." - Truzzi / Sagan

Windhawk

@-AP-:

Please explain how cold fusion violates the laws of thermodynamics. You're not getting more energy out than you put in. The energy is already contained in the atoms, and you're fusing them to put them in a lower energy state and making use of the energy released in the process.

Just because it doesn't take a million degrees or a huge gravity well to get the process going doesn't mean it violates the laws of thermodynamics.

Elliuotatar

If this were to totally replace fossil fuels what will the hyper ninnies upset about the scam of global warming have to be upset about? No doubt they will manufacture some science fiction of how helium is alarmingly making everyone talk like Donald Duck so that Al Gore will have a job going around preaching how everyone but him and his elite friends must change their lifestyles or all will be lost.

Linux_all_the_way

I think I'll celebrate by taking the Vette out for a nice afternoon drive. Hmmm, but what CD do I pop in the stereo?

Ric Ocasek's "fireball zone" seems appropriate.

GiltProto

@tehronin: I am so sick and tired of people yapping off about oil shale. Holy freakin crap. If you did the "research" that you speak of you would realize that it is not a viable alternative. YOU HAVE TO PUT MORE ENERGY IN TO GET IT OUT THEN IT ACTUALLY CONTAINS.

It is not YET oil. In a million years, the US will have the largest oil reserves. Right now you actually have to heat all the earth around it to a couple of HUNDRED degrees Fahrenheit and it slowly mimics the process that it goes through in the earth and eventually becomes usable oil.

The Shell oil company has been working on it for years, its not just some completely untapped resource, it takes a lot of energy and hard labor to get out. More than it nets.

Now, if you want to argue about untapped oil, Brazil has a MASSIVE amount of oil. The 3rd largest oil field in the world.

([www.bloomberg.com])

fr0stb1t3

Warp Engine invented yet?

No?!?

Well, wake me up then, will you...

mangochutney

Not gonna care about cold fusion till it can help my truck go mudding.

snakepliskin

@tehronin: While we humans are marginally better than most other animals, we are still notoriously short-sighted. We're 'sucking them dry' not to be 'the last man standing' but because shale oil is difficult and expensive to extract. The quality is also generally lower, making the refining process more difficult and expensive as well. Think prices at the pump are high now? Living off of shale oil would bump the price a heck of a lot more.

Besides, why continue dinging the environment? Some cleaner form of alt-power is the better choice.

hnkelley

Cold fusion will power Steorn's Orbo.

scarbrtj

@droopy1592: Funny thing is ythat will not happen for MANY years to come. The U.S. is the LARGEST holder of untapped oil reserves in the world, yet we appear to be dependant on the OPEC countries. Research "shale oil" and the countries that contain the shale and you will see the U.S. has about a billion times more oil than the MiddleEastern nations combined. In my opinion we are sucking them dry to be the last man standing. Don't take my word for it, do your own research.

tehronin

@droopy1592: aka never since there is infinite oil

pizzlepaps

I feel like it will be covered up and never heard from again until the earth's oil is used completely up.

droopy1592

Mmm, the most delicious type of cold fusion out there - ice cream and oreos

Elaine Chow

Great, now I can finally use those large containers of deuterium gas I have laying around!

Cookiefox

Someone is pulling your leg... That is a pic of the McFlurry machine....

sfokevin

@GhostofCharlesBronson: I'm sure there's a lightbulb coming on somewhere in the experimental chamber, y'know, the one that turns your kitchen window into the lighthouse at Alexandria
[gizmodo.com]

twreckx

Scientists have never produced cold fusion before and there's good reason to believe it can't be done. Without a good reason to believe the laws of thermodynamics no longer apply there's no reason to believe it's happened here, either.

-AP-

sell your oil stocks

SmBizMan

If this is real - I am buying a Delorean.

liveallnight

hehehe "-if the results are real-could revolutionize..." That's always the crux of the matter, isn't it? I remember the Fleishmann and Pons days. I worked for a patent law firm back then and we saw several 'cold fusion' technologies come through the office. (No, I can't tell you anything even if I did remember since, though I am not an attorney, I worked for them and privilege still attaches.) That was quite a while back and yet, NOTHING has come of any of that. It amazes me that you can patent something without proving it works. Ahhh... What heady, and eventually fruitless, days! I really hope it works this time.

hnkelley

@GhostofCharlesBronson:

I think you're thinking of the Val Kilmer movie The Saints.

centerpeace

Instead of holding my breath, I'll just get started on my FU letters to the California Utility Commission, SoCal Edison, former governor Gray Davis, OPEC(once no one need their oil, they just "got sand"; the ones in the middle east anyways).

Of course, I won't be sending them out till this is confirmed to be legit.

centerpeace

I saw this in a movie once. It was called Chain Reaction with Keanu Reeves. Wait no, I'm way off here ...

GhostofCharlesBronson

ITYM "without its destructive radiation"? The heat is the desirable part -- that's the energy coming out in a useful form...

theczardictates

Fuckin' aey

radikaled