Cameras
Samsung Challenges Casio with US$850 Slow-Mo HMX20 HD Camcorder
Posted by Wilson Rothman at 11:40 PM on May 9, 2008
As excited as we are about Casio's Exilim EX-F1 camera with slow-mo and high-def video modes, we're even more thrilled to see actual competition in this category. Samsung announced its HMX20C (or HMX20) at CES, and is now officially shipping it, at least in Korea, for a price around US$850. That's about US$150 less than Casio's Hiro Nakamura supercam. Here's what's similar about the two models:
• Both can do full high-def shooting—Casio at 1080i but Samsung beats it, with 1080p
• The Samsung can do slow-mo at 300 frames per second (presumably in standard def, but maybe in HD; Casio can do 300fps, 600fps and 1200fps
• Both can take still pictures while shooting video—very helpful indeed
• Although the Samsung is positioned as a camcorder and the Casio is called a camera, they both have 6-megapixel CMOS sensors
Given the CES announcement and the Korea launch, we can only assume that the HMX20 will be one of the items in Samsung's summer line show lineup. That's good news for everybody—except maybe Casio. [Samsung Press Release via PC World]
Tags: camcorders | cameras | digital cameras | samsung | slow-mo

Comments (AU Comments · US Comments)
banker
Posted June 18, 2008 5:16 AM
Hmx20c ;1080p FullHD cam, slow motion at 300fps, and low price.
I think hmx20c is moderate model for all users in easy.
GeekyNerdGuy
Posted 12:06 AM 10/5/08
The Canon HF100 is down to $750. No slo-mo, but a better picture, and you can plug external mics into it.
GeekyNerdGuy
GOKOR
Posted 12:06 AM 10/5/08
What are those blue, yellow, and red things in those vials? Are those Nerds? Freakin' sweet!!! I love Nerds, one of the best forms of candy around.
GOKOR
Darrone
Posted 12:01 AM 10/5/08
@Fayez_Butts: It just doesn't look like something that would be easy to film with. I mean, her hands (presumably) are tiny, and it still looks awkward, doesnt it?
Darrone
Fayez_Butts
Posted 11:59 PM 9/5/08
@Darrone: Is it really that ugly? I would disagree
Fayez_Butts
Fayez_Butts
Posted 11:57 PM 9/5/08
Samsung more like Dammmmmnsung
I would gladly pay $150 less for better high-def shooting, possible 300 fps in high-def, and the loss of 600 and 1200 in ultra low-def.
Fayez_Butts
Darrone
Posted 11:55 PM 9/5/08
@Neight: 1080i to 1080P tho. I'm sure the next gen will combine the better features of both.
Darrone
Darrone
Posted 11:54 PM 9/5/08
Who won the "submit your ugliest design for the HMX20C" contest?
Darrone
Neight
Posted 11:54 PM 9/5/08
I would easily pay the extra $150 for the 600fps and 1200fps.
Neight
kibets
Posted 11:49 PM 9/5/08
yum
kibets
lilaliendog
Posted 12:23 AM 10/5/08
last I remember the casio does have those super high fps captures ... but at very crappy resolutions right?
lilaliendog
carmen89
Posted 12:59 AM 10/5/08
@OG512: I really can't look at much more porn, I don't know any other girl who enjoys porn as much as I do. I mean I LOVE THIS SITE and i LOVE hot asian girls (naked, of course) so why can't they cut me some slack and gimme what I want!
OG if you got the stuff, i got the dough.
carmen89
OG512
Posted 12:48 AM 10/5/08
@carmen89: i would advise you look elsewhere for some asian chicks besides Giz. I know some that'll tickle your fancy without the sharp teeth but it'll cost you!
OG512
carmen89
Posted 12:44 AM 10/5/08
@GOKOR: I don't think those are nerds my friend. I've never seen nerds that color, or that large.
on a side note, i'm all for hot ass asian girls but can we get some better looking ones? her teeth look like they could cut a bitch.
carmen89
OG512
Posted 12:36 AM 10/5/08
with HD, Slo-Mo porn you can check your stats and work on improving your game plan!
OG512
carmen89
Posted 1:19 AM 10/5/08
@GeekyNerdGuy: this is sad...I am still in search of a HOT HOT HOT asian girl ... sometimes i THINK i see one, and i wanna become a lesbo....but then she smiles and I die a little inside. SUCH B.S IN MY OPINION
carmen89
GeekyNerdGuy
Posted 1:04 AM 10/5/08
@carmen89: One thing I noticed in Japan -- a cosmetic dentist could make a fortune. I'm guessing it's a similar situation in Korea. Apparently only Asian-American girls are hot AND have great teeth.
The rest are down at Snaggle Rock.
GeekyNerdGuy
Petezah
Posted 2:11 AM 10/5/08
@carmen89: What? I think she's pretty hot. A little snaggliness never hurt anyone.
Petezah
Tony C
Posted 2:31 AM 10/5/08
@carmen89: LOL, so you're saying the Japanese vie for the British top spot for snaggle teeth? =)
Tony C
Tony C
Posted 2:27 AM 10/5/08
@Neight: Did you happen to remember that the Casio's 1200fps and 600fps videos are the size of a postage stamp? ;o)
Tony C
Franssu
Posted 2:25 AM 10/5/08
When will the flash-based camcorders pricing reflect the fact that they don't have half as much moving parts as their HDV/DVD/HDD/Blu-ray counterparts ?
A Canon HV20, which is a very good 1080/24p HDV camcorder, can be found for less than 1000$... A camcorder like this new Samsung should be around 500$. At last, 850$ instead of 1000 is a step in the right direction.
Franssu
Tony C
Posted 2:36 AM 10/5/08
@Franssu: Ummm... Because the "non-moving" flash RAM parts costs a HELLA lot more than tapes, optical discs and hard drives?
Tony C
TrafficGeek
Posted 3:17 AM 10/5/08
All I saw was the faint outline of the stripped bra (bikini top) the model has on underneath....
What's this blog about?
TrafficGeek
toyotaboy
Posted 3:37 AM 10/5/08
finally some competition. I would much rather pay $150 less to samsung over casio, a computer known for calculators and cheap midi keyboards. Who honestly needs 1200fps? Those mentos coke videos took forever to watch.
toyotaboy
carmen89
Posted 4:49 AM 10/5/08
@Tony C: WHOA slow down, lol thats a WHOLE nother' ball park, lol.
carmen89
Hello_Newman
Posted 7:36 PM 10/5/08
I would only pay extra for slo mo if I could take a trampoline to a local Hooters for the wait staff to demonstrate, or maybe for filming women at Miami beach as they walk out of the ocean.
Hello_Newman
bakingsoda
Posted 11:50 AM 10/5/08
This says you get 90 minutes per 8 GB, meaning 12Mbit/s. This says it records 1080 60i and 1080 30p to H.264 at Superfine, Fine, or Normal. So, hopefully 12Mbit/s is for Normal, and Superfine is more like 25Mbit/s. I put CHDK on my Canon SD1000 the other day, maxed out the video recording quality to 99 and was able to record 50Mbit/s MJPEGs to an old 80x transcend sd card. They didn't look a hell of a lot better than the normal 10-15 Mbit/s videos, because there are other limiting factors, but the capacity is there. 50Mbit/s progressive H.264 would look amazing if the encoder was powerful enough. 50Mbit/s MPEG-2 could also look great, but not need as much power.
bakingsoda