Shit, I need some coffee...

tamoko

@Zlevee: That's the exact reason I run screaming from Dells, although I am typing on one at work right now (corporate)I'f rather build my own, or go hog wild crasy and get a tricked out Alienware.

@BigDanInTX: I was thinking that too. what a let down.

tamoko

Dell makes some of the best gaming machines and they have for years. You can get a nice rig for cheap from Dell. Don't forget Dell also owns Alienware.

I make my own computers but Dell is the only company I will buy them from. My $500 laptop from Dell plays TF2 and COD4 with no problems.. Beat that EEE PC.

Krutch

@OG512: Agreed. I'd even have a lot more fun putting it together myself.

ripfire4

If we are discussing Crysis, why put Tabula Rasa on the screen? What a disappointing game THAT was... =-/

BigDanInTX

Babysealclubber-
I could configure a Mac Pro that would blow this thing out of the water.....

justinpe

@Babysealclubber: Space...time...continuum...crashing around me...must...get...flux...capacitor to work. DAMN YOU BIFF TANNEN!!!

Chester_Copperpot

I wonder how long it will take for someone to post that a mac pro can be configured with similar specs as the base model, minus the video cards, for about a thousand dollars cheaper, thereby dooming the thread to yet another pointless mac/pc bash fest?

Oh wait, that's what's happening. Right. Now. (sorry)

Babysealclubber

Did Dell actually begin using standard (non-proprietary) parts like they said they were goign to? 'Cause that used to be (still is?) the biggest reason not to buy a Dell (motherboards with funky heatsink clips, cases that only allowed their wacky power supplies with the plug in a weird location, etc.).

Zlevee

maybe maximum RESOLUTION, but NOT maximum graphics QUALITY settings.

with the specs i see there, i would expect it to play crysis at max resolution but only if the qualit settings are set to LOW.

i have a Core 2 Extreme QX9650 overclocked to 3.8ghz, (2) 9800GX2's in quad-sli, and 4gb corsair dominator - i can't even play crysis at the max resolution AND max quality settings.

dell = liars

theorie

How many consoles are there out there? and they're far from high end

Jesus_Jones

Besides Alienware, there's a couple of other custom-high-end-gaming makers. Personally for $4999, i would make my own computer, then spend the other $2999 and buy 445 chipotle burritos.

wolfenstein3d

@liveinvt: sucks video card power!

OG512

yeah but that gaming spec they show on their website is definately hot! but for $4000 you can come out a lot cheaper on NewEgg.

OG512

I thought Crysis sucked?

liveinvt

Shouldnt they be selling these as Alienware?

It seems a bit redundant to have two, high-end gaming platforms.

archercc

YAY!!! now no one can make that "can in run crysis" comment!!!

guitarmunkey05

That's a trend I'd like to see: all current computer specs should include Crysis FPS data.

I just like distilling all my superfluous data down into one easily identifiable metric.

scarbrtj

$4000...for a Dull, er, Dell... I'll build my own, thankyouverymuch :-/

XJ_4x4

Dell should have spun off a separate brand for these machines (ala Lexus). I still associate Dell with cheap mail order PCs, and their badge on extremely high-end rigs doesn't sit well with me.

TheAdAgency

Straight from the PC Mag review:

"Things went south a bit when the system was cranked up to a higher 1,920-by-1,200 resolution with anti-aliasing (AA) and anisotropic filtering (AF) turned on for both games: 5 fps for Crysis and 22 fps for WiC."

[www.pcmag.com]

Where the hell is Giz getting it's info?

N@tedog

This is the ultimate poser machine.

reddingofish

@guitarmunkey05: @comp_wiz101:

Yeah, but can it play doom? Will it blend? Can it run Crysis? ;)

Evangelion

Well yes it can run crysis BUT can it blend

fastmike

@wolfenstein3d:
mmmm...that's a lot of burritos

Oh, and Frucci, I think you mean 45nm. That would be a frakken large chip.

tnash

Yea, i'm really not so sure I buy them getting 30fps on max res. and max quality. I'd like to see them go into detail more on this claim.

O3DigitalBath

Yeah, but can it run Crys... oh. ;)
Yes, we can finally stop asking!

comp_wiz101

It's nice but, like others, I could build a good machine for half that amount.

Sleeper_Service

Am I the only one who read that as, "Weighs nearly 50 pounds, stuffed as it is with poodles"?

-AP-

is GTA IV ever coming out on PC

gilt1234

@N@tedog: Ah I don't play any games anymore... I got hooked on Starcraft back in the late 90's and almost failed out of College. I just checked out a few youtube videos and it seems like Crysis is more about the physics engine than the actual game. When GTA IV comes out for computer, I'm definitely gonna pick it up. Thanks for your review :).

Joseph

wait.. that "CRYSIS" thing is real???

mumin

@Joseph: I've played it on low end and high end machines. The high and machine is CERTAINLY a better experience. The game itself has been called great but not up to the hype. The AI are morons but the open ended gameplay lets you complete a level in DOZENS of different ways. The ending is WAY too open ended and they introduce the best weapon of the game at the very end of the game, which is dumb. There are some terrific levels and some flat out boring and frustrating levels (alien spaceship). I'd buy GTA IV over Crysis, but if you like FPS games and have a good enough machine to run specs at medium its worth the purchase.

N@tedog

Can it run tetris at full spec? hah, gotcha

Either way, I got me a 17 inch XPS laptop and I fell in love the second I pulled it out of the box, I built my PC but that's mainly for work and this laptop is my play toy

WD40

Is Crysis actually a good game? I never hear any reference to it actually being a good game, but rather to how powerful of a machine you need to run it.

Joseph

Every time there is a post like this you are going to get the same gamut of comments (not that I don't agree with most of them):

- Why pay this much for a computer you can build with better specs for an equal or lesser price?

- Games like Crysis only further the debate on the advantage of console gaming since you are not having to constantly upgrade your system to get new games to play

- But will it run Crysis? (Damn, I am sick of hearing this one, although I think scarbrtj has a point in saying this game is increasingly becoming the metric by which all gaming PC's performance is gauged on)

- Will it blend (Banhammer please?)

TOWken22

where are its graphics specs?
i see cpu chipset ram sound but no gpus, id say its packing at least some 9800gtx in sli on 2 or 3 way config...

pharago

I can see it now...

"Ability to run crysis: CHECK"

At the bottom of every specs list.

Atsumi

@wolfenstein3d: Remind me to bring a gas mask to any LAN party you attend.

Maxxofor

Funny, I am building a similar speced computer, but with name brand parts. Prob gonna be just shy of 3,000. No water cooling though.

mikecoscia

@Vindicoth: Nope, but I do now. The post was just for shits and giggles, what serious gamer plays on a mac anyways?

For gaming purposes you can't compare a system that offers unlimited expansion with one that puts you in a walled garden, no matter how pretty the garden is.

Babysealclubber

Vista is the only OS offered for this rig, so what's the point?

I'd like to see electrical power consumption as a universal mandated spec. I for one would not contribute to the destruction of the planet just to notch up the frame rate in some poorly executed game.

whootowl

@Babysealclubber:

Uh.. you know the video cards would equal that 1000 dollar cost easily.

Vindicoth

As a game, Crysis is just...good...its gameplay is solid, but nothing revolutionary. It has its high and low moments, like any decent FPS.

On the other hand, as an experience, Crysis is amazing. If your machine can handle even medium settings and run comfortably, it's a lot like living in a Michael Bay movie. You won't find deep philosophy, but gosh, those explosions are so pretty!

misterwight

@TheAdAgency: It doesn't say Dell anywhere on the case, as far as I can see.

monkeybars

but can it play PONG?

fuzzymuffins

@liveinvt: As a game, sure. But as a benchmark tool it seems to be pretty popular.

do tell

@guitarmunkey05: That's because Dell's ecosystem rocks!

chaoslink

This is wrong! I demand a retraction!

Straight from the PC Mag review:

"Things went south a bit when the system was cranked up to a higher 1,920-by-1,200 resolution with anti-aliasing (AA) and anisotropic filtering (AF) turned on for both games: 5 fps for Crysis and 22 fps for WiC."

[www.pcmag.com]

Where the hell is Giz getting it's info?

N@tedog

Now with Dell laying off 1100 XPS tech support in Ottawa Canada, you will be paying for Off-shored tech assistance. Waste of money if you ask me, who wants to talk to a scripted person that gets paid $13 a day?

meethed

@guitarmunkey05:

Yeah.. but can it play Doom?

robinandtami

Maybe this will work better than my XPS 720H2C that BSOD's about every 6 hours. They assure me it is ok though and are not providing very good tech support! I could not recommend the 730 based on the problems I am having with the 720...

andrelix

@TheAdAgency: They do, it's called Alienware.

NerdHunter

@theorie: Sounds like you got ripped the fuck off. Who in their right mind would spend that much money on a Dell?

Windows sucks ass.

themediaguy

@themediaguy: Cheer up man, have a cookie. Then take your nap :D

Evangelion

$4000, why is it leaning over like that, you'd think that they could have at least made a case that didn't look like it was falling over for 4 grand.

6street

I'm currently building a X38 e8400 4gb 12000 DDR2 with 2x750gb plus velociraptor for OS, XP pro/Vista 64 dual boot system which will set me back all together around 1700. That's with the Coolermaster Cosmos, which is one bad ass case.

F$#@ Dell up the butt, they're for people who don't know how to build their own stuff or are too busy to do so, or both. If you're too busy to build, chances are you really don't need such cutting edge. If you have time to game, you have time to build.

Me, I'm busy as hell but computers are important to me so I prioritize them into my life. Much like my wife. but not so much like my wife in that I can choose to ignore my PC if I want to, and I can turn it on EASILY by flipping a switch. *sigh*

Men of the future will have robot wives, I'm SURE of it. With optional nagging circuitry on/off switch.

cheers

banmojo

Ok.. WTF WTF from the dell xps 730 page: "XPS 730
Own 1 - PWN ALL!" (this is the most expensive option. Seriously, dell. Are you trying to sell this thing to 13 years olds? Oh wait... they don't have $5999

Dark-Dx

Dell owns Alienware so that "tricked out" machine is still from Dell. You can build it your self for cheaper but people often buy cheap cases which are loud have bad airflow and a cheaper powersupply.
They use a pirated os which can't update and if anything goes bad you ship it to the factory if they cover it. You have no support and alot of people can't configure the system for optimal performance and when a tricky problem arises they don't have the know how to fix it. Ever sit in a room full of the xps 730's? you can't hear them, since they are factory overclocked dell has to warrant any overclocking you do which means if you push that cpu to far and it burns up you're covered. No risk overclocking your thousand dollar core2 extreme you do get what you pay for.

hydrexrx8

@Dark-Dx: Haha, I actually went and checked Dell's page...that's funny how Dell is trying to act like they pwn all us n00bs...stupid h4x0r5 :D

athingunique