two things:
1) are lefty gamers that rare?
2) I spent a lot on upgrades to my mac pro to be able to play all the games I was told I was missing out on. played crysis (bootcamp) for a bit, now I just play my consoles. PC gaming sucks, yes even on widoze.

kahri

A mouse with higher sensitivity is nice for gaming and even some apps. where you want a mouse to track accurately and smoothly.

So yes, better mice do make a noticeable difference. Now going from 1800 dpi to 2000 dpi probably isn't going to feel much different, but a standard 600 dpi to 1200 or so is very noticeable.

tanukineri

@brutek: Every few years I look around to see if anyone has updated it to run in OSX...so far no luck.

Goodnightbabytron

@bosskev: That's a good question. I have an MX518 for a couple years now and the only reason I chose it in the first place was to match the whole color scheme with my monitor and keyboard. I guess it's suppose to run smoother.

ripfire4

It's not the mouse that's important, you nerds. It's the configuration software that comes with it!

Oy.

dagamer34

EA is putting out all their games on Mac. Battlefield, Star Wars Battlefront, Lego Star Wars, Call of Duty series, The Sims....

[store.apple.com]

delithic

niche market or what?

flyboy

@matt buchanan: Oh man yeah! Hell I have 5000 kills in Cod4 with only 1 day of playtime, I can't even imagine how much time I racked up in 1.6!@Flugenhiber: I got the 510 because it was wired, so I never had to worry about batteries.

Log1c

@MrBlahBlah:
"a right mouse button on a mac?"

What do I use it for? It looks like there are two mouse buttons on the side of the mouse too... The extra buttons probably just bring up context sensitive help for the "left" mouse button.

Anything worth doing with a mouse can be done with one mouse button.

Rabid Penguin

Escape Velocity is where it's at for mac gaming. Oh and for that MMORPG kick www.clanlord.com .. sweet. (PC as well now!)

duckandcover

@Goodnightbabytron: Lode Runner Rules... [going to dig out my Apple II+ version on 5.25" floppy]

brutek

good, i got a deathadder. hopefully it's the same hardware and only needs drivers. i can finally get more precise mouse movement on my hackintosh.

foureight84

So, what makes this different from a regular Death Adder? I've been using a Logitech G5 for over a year now. You can use pretty much any USB mouse with a mac. Also, Mac's have had multi-button mice for a couple of years as standard. It's called the Mighty Mouse, and it doesn't look like it's multi-button but it is.

spawnofbill

Has there ever, ever been a better game than Lode Runner?

Goodnightbabytron

hey, I run Crysis just fine on my MacBook Pro under Boot Camp... most PCs at Best Buy can't do that even!

chelsel

@GeekyNerdGuy: Life And Death? I love that game... there was no way to keep anyone alive. Worst doctor ever.

And here's an oldie but goodie:

+ Watch video

Hiphopopotamus

@newgalactic: I get that we're all being incredibly hip and cool...but Halo on the Mac played beautifully. Just saying.

Goodnightbabytron

Mac Gamer = Bootcamp Windows

brutek

@newgalactic:

Yeah it's true. You can also play Civ IV on it too. And Tiger Woods, and Madden, and Need for Speed, and Guitar Hero 3, and Halo, and Quake IV, and Doom 3, Age of Empires, Battlefield, yada yada yada(although a lot of games are done through Cider, which is cheating but at least they're there)

pine1045

You guys have this all wrong. The reason there are no Mac gamers is because this mouse did not yet exist for the platform. Now this is available, the Mac is officially a gaming platform.

Minus the games, of course.

Monty

@MrBlahBlah: It's really what motorists would call a 'dead pedal'. Calm down.

AmishJohn

@GeekyNerdGuy: That's funny. I remember playing that game on an Amiga.

ripfire4

@Log1c: I dunno - I've got a mx 1000 that's been going for a bit short of that (4.5ish?) and it's damn comfortable. Plus, I don't know that any more precision would help me - dunno how much more precise it can be anyway.

Flugenhiber

@Log1c: Same, but MX500 over here. I wish I had a body counter on there to know how many people I've killed with it. Probably a small country's worth.

matt buchanan

Some decent (depending on your taste) games for Mac that aren't necessarily brand new include SimCity 4, Civilization 4, all Blizzard games, ... okay, that's about it. Now I remember why I have a PC for games.

_killface_

@bosskev: That's a very good question! And I might have some answers on that very soon. Hint, hint.

matt buchanan

Gaming Mouse for Mac? That's strange. I never knew Photoshop was a game.

takashimike

*gasp*

a right mouse button on a mac?

MrBlahBlah

@newgalactic: how did you quote yourself? Thats creepy ! Stop it!

It's a good game but it's not popular. and my "I'm not a gamer" statement still stands, the escape velocity series from Ambrosia was good.

Okay even that is five years ago.

Castle1914

@dry-roasted-peanuts: no, I'm not a gamer. If I was I would own a PS3 or a Wii, or maybe even an Xbox.

Castle1914

@newgalactic: ...are there any other popular/good games that run on a Mac?

newgalactic

Mx510 > All, 5 years old + and still going!

Log1c

@GeekyNerdGuy: We had Apple IIs when I was in elementary thru high school. Arkanoid, Goofy Golf, and The Oregon Trail..., that's pretty much the extent of my apple gaming knowledge. (not counting emulation mind you)

MagnoliaBoy

I believe that all Blizzard Games (Starcraft, WoW, Warcraft)come in a Mac version. Is this true?

newgalactic

From the maker of Condoms for Nuns!

Darrone

... Anyone else feel occasionally embarrassed by stuff like this?

dry-roasted-peanuts

I'm not a gamer so I've got a serious question. How does this mouse do anything special that a regular mouse does not do (other than have a cool snake on it)?

bosskev

You can run WoW on macs. But that's so four years ago.

liveinvt

I remember back when I was in like 7th grade, there was this one guy I knew who had a Mac, and he had this surgery game where you were a doctor and had to remove somebody's appendix. It was intriguing at the time, but I was never able to avoid killing the patient. Perhaps this mouse could have helped me save lives.

That's the only game I've ever seen on a Mac.

GeekyNerdGuy

Hey! I've been using a DeathAdder right now on my Mac for a few months now.

Oh wait, I see - they turned off the nasty "blue light" by default in the mac version. This is controlled by the driver in the PC.

It should just be a driver update, not sure why they're calling this a new product.

rizzle

@Goodnightbabytron:

just see if you can find a good old emulator - lode runner i believe was available on apple ][s and there are apple ][ emulators i believe...

nutbastard

I'm sure that in the annals of MAC Gaming your "Bejeweled 2" score will be held high as an example of that kind of thing.

Why isn't it in white?

strider_mt2k

@duckandcover:

Myth was published by bungie and had a simultaneous mac/windows release, so yes, you are correct sir.

nutbastard

MrBlahBlah:
Hasen't Apple offered a "two button mouse" for three years? I mean, no one is still whining about the NHL strike so why are you still whining about the two button mouse?

A3rd.Zero

The Myth game series was both PC and Mac ... I think.

duckandcover

@chelsel:

Yeah, and most gamers don't buy gaming PCs at Best Buy either... besides...

Gaming on a laptop is the same as gaming on a Mac with bootcamp, you're still limited by hardware severely simply because of the design. (One reason why I never understood gaming on a laptop. The second being that I really don't think I could get into a decent system hogging epic game while on the go... but hey, something is better than nothing.) Even with new hardware, you'd pay the cost of a Mac plus the cost of the hardware which would be less cost efficient than just building a computer which would inevitably run it faster and could be Hackintosh'd.

Metkis

@newgalactic:
Bungie only made Mac games until Microsoft bought the entire studio to get Halo.

I haven't played any of their games besides Halo but I have heard some of their original games were quite good for the time.

Optimus-Prime

Hmph, I wish they'd just release mac drivers for the Lachesis.

ComradePhate

@someToast: Well, shove one down the throats of blowhards, shuts 'em right up!

bosskev

I feel terribly ashamed that I see cleavage on that mouse.

Kaiser-Machead

Oh, c'mon now. Yes, you can play WoW on a mac- but you can also play the old tomb raider games! And the old Rainbow Six games! And Diablo II!!! And... oh, wait, those are all like 5-10 years old...

MasterYong

Say what you want about gaming on Macs, you can't possibly defend using the Mighty Mouse in fragfests.

someToast

Gaming on a Mac is like photoshopping/video editing on a PC. You can do it but its easier and more enjoyable on the other OS.

N@tedog

@Harlan: I never had that one, but I did have Scarfman, Space Invaders and Moon Rover.

Oh, and some program that printed out cartoon characters in ASCII on the old dot-matrix.

GeekyNerdGuy

* Gasp *

we have 5 buttons on our mice, and our trackpads have been able to scroll, right click, left click with different tapping gestures for years...

GASP

versaceboi

@ripfire4: Planet Miners on a TRS-80, anyone?

Harlan

@MagnoliaBoy: What?? You never had the Microzine games? With that fantastic voyage type game? Nora Pinephron - the famous doctor who lives in the target body you're exploring? I'm NOT crazy. These things were real!

qbrad

Yeesh, another flamewar. For an appropriate resolution to this thread, scroll down to the comment by John Watts here: [www.reghardware.co.uk]

PS - Any commenter who has a star by his name should know the difference between MAC and Mac *coughstridercough*. Just sayin'.

aseriesoftubes

@kahri: Actually, most of Razer's goods are ambidextrous. So I'm kind of surprised they ported one of the right-handers over.

matt buchanan

.... off road tires with duct tape fittings...

madog

If Apple decided to release a "normal" 2 button mouse [as opposed to its current one button touch sensitive mouse] I guarantee you I would have to spend at least another hour a week on the phone explaining to the 150 year olds how to left-click. So please, don't complain about when you can buy one for $15.

Apple gaming wouldn't suck so bad if games were actually made for it. It's like me advertising off road tires for hondas and exclaiming that they work fine on my truck [so the problem must be with you!]

madog

@N@tedog:

Photoshop is more fun on a Mac...what? Ahaha, I'll agree that Photoshop is optimized for OSX performance wise, but using both I really can't pinpoint which I had more fun with... in fact, they seemed as though they were the same program to me. I'm more used to the PC version (often find myself still Ctrl-C and Ving to no prevail tsk tsk), but I don't hold that against the Mac OSX version since it is based solely on personal experience. Of course, personally I'd sacrifice any performance stipulations just to have everything on one system (which, yes, would be Windows XP, the OS I use most.) I understand the implications in that of course, but I personally found it more efficient. As far as other people go, not all persons will be interested in doing the same activities as me so OSX might be more valuable.

Overall, an OS depends solely on our own production or needs. I would never call OSX just a pretty OS with no features, but certainly for me, I have no particular cause to bring myself to depend upon it.

Metkis

@versaceboi: But you must also consider how ugly said mice look

This "Death Adder" is one of the better looking mice I have seen. The only thing that kills it for me is the logo (too big, or shouldn't be there at all). And it doesn't seem to come in white.

MrHaroHaro

@MrHaroHaro: If you disable the LED for the logo (very easily done in software), the logo becomes practically invisible.

Only downside is you need the software to run at boot (then you can close it if necessary).

japroach

@ChuckBlack: No mouse at all. Terminal FTW!!!

krom

Here's an idea for a poll, "1 button mouse or a 2 button mouse" for mac users...

ChuckBlack

I consider myself and avid mac gamer. I just finished Fallout 2 and am working on Fallout 1. I'm gaming back in time! I guess that's why they call it Time Machine.

hipstar

This is the stupidest thing i have EVER heard. Any USB mouse will work on a macintosh and I'm pretty sure (not totally positive) that the default macintosh mouse drivers will recognize most if not all of the buttons. The ONLY difference between this and the PC version would be the drivers they send. The idea of releasing a mouse specifically for Mac is just... its just stupid. Make the driver a free download on your website... or *gasp* include them on the driver disk along side the windows drivers. A mouse is a mouse is a mouse. I've rocked various mice on my ibook and they all work without a problem. But i suppose i could just be lucky.

luciusad2004

hey come on, mac users have games... like WoW... and photoshop...

peterlarson233

I'm pretty sure that even the most hardcore Apple fanboys recognize the Mighty Mouse as a huge mistake.

bentastic