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Linux Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron Officially Released, Flapping in the Free Air
Posted by Matt Buchanan at 4:20 AM on April 25, 2008
A month after the beta dropped, Linux distro Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron is officially out. Besides running GNOME 2.22 and Firefox 3 Beta 5, a big new feature is Wubi support, which'll let Ubuntu live on the same partition as Windows and makes it easy to uninstall if you want to retreat back into Microsoft's bosom. If you're Li-curious, now's a good time to try. The site's getting hammered so torrent might be your best bet. [Ubuntu, Thanks nutbastard]

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Topcat
Posted 5:28 AM 25/4/08
@Noobs-R-Us: Picture a typical Linux user, taking note of the Cheetos stained fingers, Mountain-Dew high, Monty Python quotes and fervent reading of D&D manuals and Battlestar fanfic.
Is it any wonder why Linux apps are named things like WUBI, the GIMP, Thoggen, GNOME, Ekiga, Wizpy, Jokosher, etc?
Topcat
OMG! Ponies!
Posted 5:26 AM 25/4/08
@strider_mt2k: It is a good time. They've improved the hardware support tremendously although the GL Desktop is giving me some static.
OMG! Ponies!
Tex1961
Posted 5:18 AM 25/4/08
I think the wubi site is having an issue. Only 34 hours too go!!!
Tex1961
strider_mt2k
Posted 5:08 AM 25/4/08
Hmmm, I haven't tried my latest secondary computer out with Ubuntu.
Maybe this is a good time!
strider_mt2k
Kaiser-Machead
Posted 5:03 AM 25/4/08
I've been pretty satisfied with the pre-release so far on my VM. Can't wait to test this one out tonight.
Kaiser-Machead
sisedi
Posted 5:00 AM 25/4/08
@Leonard Nimrod: Isn't that Wbui then? Why Uganda Bickers Intensely?
sisedi
Leonard Nimrod
Posted 4:57 AM 25/4/08
@HeartBurnKid: Wubi = Windows-based UBuntu Installer
Leonard Nimrod
xint
Posted 4:50 AM 25/4/08
Our provider's connection took a huge steamy dump this morning and we're on a backup line... there's no way that with the site being hammered and my connection being a piece of crap I will have this today... hopefully the weekend... dammit!
xint
innout3x3
Posted 4:45 AM 25/4/08
I'm downloading it. 66% done from the website. It's been 3 hours and DL rate is declining slowly. It's going to be a long 700mb.
innout3x3
xint
Posted 4:37 AM 25/4/08
[wubi-installer.org]
WUBI!
xint
HeartBurnKid
Posted 4:36 AM 25/4/08
@Noobs-R-Us: It's not baby talk, it's African talk.
Well, Ubuntu is, anyway. I have no idea what Wubi is supposed to mean.
HeartBurnKid
Noobs-R-Us
Posted 4:23 AM 25/4/08
What's up with the baby talk? BuBU, poopoo, doodoo. FooFoo.
Noobs-R-Us
OMG! Ponies!
Posted 5:39 AM 25/4/08
@Topcat: Someone wants to be taken out behind the toolshed by nutbastard
OMG! Ponies!
nutbastard
Posted 5:35 AM 25/4/08
@strider_mt2k:
Do it. I triple dog dare you.
nutbastard
DeathGrind
Posted 6:32 AM 25/4/08
i ran ubuntu hardy heron for a bit on my laptop, reverted back to windows for numerous reasons. I think i will try this out. Still ubuntu is not the OS of choice for a audio video workstation. I make the full leap to ubuntu when there are apps like ableton live, Cakewalk SONAR, adobe audition,pr tools, EZ dfh, fxpansions BFD2. I even used ubuntu studio for awhile but it wasn't as good in my opinion as the windows based apps i have on hand. So until ubuntu has some stellar audio video programs i am stuck looking at world through windows.
DeathGrind
gamecrazychris
Posted 6:07 AM 25/4/08
I'm getting the cd for free, it should arive in the next month just in time for me to try it out with wubi on my new computer.
gamecrazychris
weshirecat
Posted 4:37 AM 25/4/08
Finally!! A reason to grow a neck beard!!
weshirecat
bpatten
Posted 6:56 AM 25/4/08
href="#c5359825">Noobs-R-Us:Those are "Project" names. On most of the larger distributions such as ubuntu, fedora etc, they get renamed with more non-geek readable names.
Take the default movie player for ubuntu for instance. It's called "Totem", but in the menu, by default, it's just "Movie Player".
I havn't messed with Wubi yet, but I would be willing to be that when it comes up via autoplay, it says something more along the lines of "Install Ubuntu", not "Wubi"@
bpatten
HeartBurnKid
Posted 6:45 AM 25/4/08
@Topcat: I'm sorry, did you say something? I couldn't hear you over the sound of your ego inflating and your smugness filling the room.
HeartBurnKid
wlcrm
Posted 6:43 AM 25/4/08
@innout3x3:
@xint:
Try the torrent of the releases. This is what bittorrent was designed for.
Oregon State University mirror: [ubuntu.osuosl.org]
Argonne National Labs mirror: [mirror.anl.gov]
wlcrm
HeartBurnKid
Posted 7:53 AM 25/4/08
@RabbiHarley: I'm unable to tell if you're being sarcastic. o_O
HeartBurnKid
Atticka
Posted 7:37 AM 25/4/08
WUBI allows you to install Ubuntu into a folder on the Windows partition, no need to re-partition your drive if you want a dual boot machine.
Hibernate features will no work however.
Atticka
RabbiHarley
Posted 7:21 AM 25/4/08
Linux people just don't get it. All we Windows users really want is an operating system that's equally as shitty as Windows. Linux keeps striving for perfection, and that just isn't where the rest of the real world lives. Thank goodness Steve Jobs and Bill Gates realized this great truth long ago. Until Linux Operating Systems get down to Earth, back to the REAL world where most computer users live, don't bother me with, "ooohhh we have a New & Improved version of Linux"...BS, they all suck (hard) unless you're a pimple faced geek that still needs to get a life outside his computer room.
RabbiHarley
Andham
Posted 8:25 AM 25/4/08
@xint: If the Ubuntu site is slow enough, your connection shouldn't be the bottleneck.
Andham
GhoS
Posted 8:01 AM 25/4/08
I finally got into Ubuntu recently and I must say its excellent. It takes some trial and error at first because truthfully there are still some things you need to work through the console to do (tougher for some of us)
It works great with my hardware and its definitely faster than my vista, just still some awkwardness and some programs not available that I use.
Overall if you haven't upgraded or given it a test drive, what is stopping you?
GhoS
mferrari
Posted 9:01 AM 25/4/08
@Topcat: So your saying that someone can design amazing software, provide it for free, let you do whatever you want with it, and ask nothing in return. But, they still can't name it what they want.
Why don't you just FUCK OFF
mferrari
Dook_In_The_Urinal
Posted 8:50 AM 25/4/08
I have been using Ubuntu Hardy since early beta and I can honestly say, its the best OS I have ever used. I still have a Vista partition for little windows things I may need, but VirtualBox has all but made that partition unnecessary. As a matter of fact, Im posting this from Ubuntu with my Moto e815(evdo) tethered to my laptop. I had to install ZERO drivers for this to function.
Dook_In_The_Urinal
OMG! Ponies!
Posted 8:43 AM 25/4/08
For those on the fence, Ubuntu runs like a champ on my little Toshiba Satellite. It has a couple little glitches, but no more so than XP or Leopard (yes Apple, Leopard has bugs - still). If your computer is getting a little sluggish with XP, ask yourself how much gaming you do and maybe a 360 and Ubuntu should be in your future.
OMG! Ponies!
nutbastard
Posted 8:41 AM 25/4/08
@RabbiHarley:
says a guy who hasn't bothered to try Ubuntu lately... is it possible to be an anti-fanboy? yes. yes it is.
nutbastard
takemetoyourtoaster
Posted 8:39 AM 25/4/08
@RabbiHarley: yeah if you arent being sarcastic then STFU
linux FTW
I am actually on my macbook, but I plan on installing this on my old computer, I have a few friends who use it and it is very very cool
takemetoyourtoaster
Mandatory_Field
Posted 9:27 AM 25/4/08
@strider_mt2k: Heck, it's always a good time to try a new/different OS! There must be a LiveCD version available? that would allow you to check it out without leaving a permanent footprint, while you decided if you liked it or not. You can cache files on the PC to provide persistence between reboots/better performance, if you liked, while still making it easy to remove if you decided that it wasn't for you. If you like it, you can then do a permanent install and get better performance.
I'm glad it's final now, as that means that Parallels will soon have complete support for it: I've been playing with it in a virtual machine on the MBP, but the mouse integration, etc will make that experience more seamless.
Mandatory_Field
Dook_In_The_Urinal
Posted 9:23 AM 25/4/08
@mferrari:
Goose-fraba
Goose-fraba
Dook_In_The_Urinal
RabbiHarley
Posted 9:07 AM 25/4/08
@HeartBurnKid & nutdipshit;
@_@
:o]
o_0
RabbiHarley
OMG! Ponies!
Posted 9:06 AM 25/4/08
@mferrari: Tone it down. If you get too close to a troll, you might become one yourself.
OMG! Ponies!
Brian Sexton
Posted 9:55 AM 25/4/08
@Topcat: Kit gused xto kbe gthat xI kcouldn't gstand GNU/Linux xand kUnix gsoftware xnames, but lately they've been getting better. A lot of them still look and sound as though they were derived from bowls of alphabet soup or cereal, but at least a lot more of them seem to be deviating from the tired old K-this, G-that, X-whatever school of software names. I think it would be funny if there were an enterprise GNU/Linux project dedicated to software releases with more commercially acceptable names; they wouldn't actually fork so much as just rebrand every release.
I had some trouble with my Internet connection earlier today and after spending hours to download a few hundred megabytes of the new release, I was unable to resume the download, but I was just able to download it anew, so it's tinkerin' time again.
Brian Sexton
dklipse
Posted 5:03 AM 25/4/08
The i386 torrent downloaded within a half an hour for me. The amd64 torrent took a little longer, but it was barely over an hour.
dklipse
kaneshadow
Posted 11:52 AM 25/4/08
@Topcat: I thought the same thing, the first time I installed Fedora and the partition app was called Disk Druid. Ugh! You could cut the nerdiness with a knife.
kaneshadow
Brian Sexton
Posted 12:42 PM 25/4/08
@Brian Sexton: Actually, it looks like "WUBU" and "WUBI" are both wrong; it's just "Wubi" at the Wubi site.
Brian Sexton
Brian Sexton
Posted 12:39 PM 25/4/08
"WUBU" was a typo; I meant "WUBI", obviously. Comment-editing might be nice. :)
Brian Sexton
Brian Sexton
Posted 12:38 PM 25/4/08
OK, I'm back from trying the AMD 64 version via WUBI and I can report that the installation process seemed surprisingly sloppier than a regular Ubuntu installation. It seemed strange when the help text for the Desktop Environment menu listed a few different options when the menu actually contained only one option, but I wasn't actually expecting those other options, so the discrepancy was more tease than trouble.
After the Windows-hosted portion of the installation, things went a bit bad when WUBI told me it was time to restart my computer (I don't recall if it mentioned which operating system it wanted me to continue with) only for Windows Vista to interrupt its restarting process with a message that the installation may not have succeeded. I restarted anyway and after selecting Ubuntu from the Windows Boot Manager menu, the installation finished.
Overall, the WUBU-installed system seemed to work fine, but Ubuntu couldn't download an Nvidia driver, so I couldn't try out the desktop effects. Also, my user name under Ubuntu was inexplicably "brian User" instead of the "brian" I had typed into WUBI.
I may still go ahead with a full installation on a dedicated hard drive, but I satisfied my Ubuntu-via-WUBI curiosity, so I uninstalled it. Even though Windows reported the name as "Ubuntu" and the publisher as "Ubuntu", I was then told that WUBI had been uninstalled, not that Ubuntu had been uninstalled. It was odd.
Brian Sexton
Brian Sexton
Posted 1:13 PM 25/4/08
Oh yeah: I forgot to mention that when I booted back into Windows Vista from Wubi-installed Ubuntu, my system clock was an hour ahead of the real time.
Brian Sexton
Mongoose
Posted 6:08 PM 25/4/08
I shall be personally dissapointed if Ubuntu 13.01 isn't codenamed 'Mystic Mongoose'.
Mongoose
strider_mt2k
Posted 11:39 PM 25/4/08
@nutbastard:
@OMG! Ponies!:
Thanks for the encouragement! :)
I'm on it.
Downloading the ISO as I type this.
strider_mt2k
Brian Sexton
Posted 1:31 PM 27/4/08
One more thing: the Wubi uninstaller did not restore Windows Vista to its original booting state; Windows Boot Manager still appears, asking me if I want to boot into Windows Vista or Ubuntu.
Brian Sexton