Sony XEL-1 OLED TV Review (Verdict: Small on Size, Large on Beauty)
Why is this dinky little TV so important? Its screen is roughly the size of the box that Lebowski comes in, and it costs hundreds more than the 50" plasma overshadowing it in the picture. Why so important? Because this little TV is LCD's Grim Reaper. The days of the LCD are numbered—the time of OLED is at hand. And if the performance of Sony's XEL-1 is any indication, nobody is going to miss LCD—or plasma—in the least.
I single out LCD because the folks taking the lead on OLED are Sony, Samsung and others firmly entrenched in the LCD business, and because LCD still suffers from image demons that plasma overcomes more easily, and OLED smashes with a hammer, even at infancy.
Also, although everyone is demoing thinner and thinner sets in both LCD and plasma, most of the weight loss is currently on the plasma side. LCD seems to have hit some firm threshhold that, again, OLED and even plasma seem able to conquer. But at 11 inches, Sony's first production OLED is laughably small. What the hell, Sony? Way to taunt a guy. Seriously, there are major amounts of taunting happening here:
When you put an LCD next to a plasma, you almost always notice the contrast issues. Fiddle with the settings all you want, and you generally still can't make the blacks black enough on that LCD. When I first set up the OLED next to this Panasonic, a 50" 1080p 50PZ700U, I thought for a moment that maybe OLEDs had a contrast problem, too. But then I realised that whoever had the thing before me had been jerking the controls around too much. I reverted the picture settings to "standard" and suddenly the contrast was deeper than the plasma, with brighter highlights. OLEDs are self illuminating, so the very same thing that makes them super thin also gives them awesome contrast.
Obviously another big challenge for LCDs is the motion blur problem, which is mostly solved in higher-end LCDs using 120Hz systems and other similar techniques, but leaves cheaper sets hanging. It's most noticeable when you put an LCD side-by-side with a plasma showing the same movie. Fortunately, here again, the OLED did as well or better than the plasma at motion in the side-by-side test.
In the end, you're essentially staring into what could very well be the perfect TV. Only you're not a hobbit, and this isn't Bag End.So why the dinkiness? OLED production is tricky, as you might recall from
this video of Benny the Intern and me at an OLED factory. Methods are best suited for small sheets of "substrate," not big screens of the stuff. Sony couldn't produce anything bigger now and still guarantee this kind of quality.
OLED makers also have to deal with panel half-life issues similar to those that used to afflict plasma in the days of yore. The XEL-1 is rated for 30,000 hours, or roughly 10 years of use; today's plasmas, including the above Panasonic, get something around 60,000 hours. In other words, long enough.
In the end, it's not a thing you go out and buy. It's a message in a slender frame. Sony never had massive R&D investment in LCD like Sharp or in plasma like Panasonic, and it's clear that this is Sony's way of saying, "Screw all of those, cuz OLED is what will matter, and oh yeah, Sony will drive OLED." Am I putting too many words in your mouth, Sony? I hope not, because this time next year, I'd like to be staring at a 50-inch version of this junior wonder. OK, 32 inches will be fine. 25 inches? 20?????









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CaliforniaKid
Hey! It looks like Apple will be putting this into their next 3G iPhone!!!
Noobs-R-Us
My only two issues I had with the unit I saw in the Sony Store:
1) It flickers! Sony guy claimed it was because it was playing back 1080p24, but man, it's distracting and annoying. At least crank up the refresh rate...
2) What's the lifetime / quality? OLEDs (used to?) suffer from really short lifetimes - easily less than 5 years before the blues were noticably "dead". Also, do OLED displays suffer from dead pixels? They are, after all. arrays of light-emitting elements...
Worf
I love you so much Sony. Please return the love and send me a sample unit.
Yours Truly,
-M
mdnttoker
By "image demons", do you mean image retention? I've read several reviews of this Sony unit and the reviewers never mention whether or not it has this problem. I assume that it does since the reviewers never mention it, not wanting to piss off companies like Sony who spend big bucks on ads in the magazines that the shills - I mean "reviewers" - work for. Plasma still suffers from this after image retention problem- despite all the PR from the plasma manufacturers to the contrary.
timaeus
I laughed when the article noted the OLED TV had "plasma grade contrast." There is no comparison in contrast between an OLED and Plasma. The OLED's black is literally true black and in a dark room would make the Plasma look like a first gen LCD in comparison. Also the colour, contrast ratios are an order higher than even the KURO line of Plasmas. Its not the just the thinness of the OLED that makes it expensive u know...
thewhoopimen
@ The Author
The OLED does NOT have "Plasma Grade Contrast" as the author purports. In fact the comparison is ridiculous. The OLED simply does not use a backlight of any sort. The OLED's black is like 10X better than a Plasma's black and it has a larger color spectrum than Plasma. If you were to put an OLED and Plasma side by side in a black room, the Plasma would look like an LCD next to it.
Please don't undersell the OLED.
thewhoopimen
I have one and it is fantastic. I have multiple LCD TVs and their picture is good, but this small set is so much better than they are that it is almost as if the pictures were from two different sources.
The colors are so deep and bright that it almost looks 3D.
I can't wait for Sony to make them larger and I really want one for my laptop!
SFVExec
SPOILER ALERT!!
Car Blows up in Michael Clayton.
Thanks Gizmodo.
Next time use an older movie
dddanimator
Cameras with OLED are cheaper, but talking about TVs the thing is different.
igidix
When I saw the contrast comparison picture, on my CRT monitor, I barely noticed any difference, but when I moved the picture over to my LCD monitor, I could definitely see the difference.
This doesn't look that bad for a laptop or PMP screen. I'd like to see one in the EVT of digital cameras as well.
fufinache
It was very sexy.
ph15h
Okay its 0. are you happy Walter you crazy fuck?
belltolls
@cygnusx8: yes... except that smaller ones are already in a number of devices. Current gen cel phones, the Optimus keyboard has, well, a lot of them... etc etc.
Also GE has made a lot of progress in roll-to-roll production of OLED's recently: [www.grcblog.com]
So I suspect that display size versions (especially laptops) are a lot closer than 2-3 years. At a guess, 1st qtr next year for laptops and smaller high end displays. (17 - 21", $2000+ ).
Then again I am just guessing, and doing rudimentary research before commenting...
x40sw0n
@Bantam: This is a league game, Smokey.
dingus
Great - I thought SED was going to be all that as well - still can't get it.
When we see mass production of OLED sets in sizes over 70" or when they are a year or less from that point wake me up. Until then I'll just put my nanotube batteries back in my electric vehicle and be on my way - oh wait - that is yet another technology we don't know when we'll really see in any production.
boe
Goodman: Shut the FUCK up, Donnie.
Vagabum
Mark it fuckin' 0. Smokey, you're entering a world of pain.
GrimaceXL
@aec007:
sadly.....yes
MrBlahBlah
Macbook air commercial music wafting down from upstairs. Wondering how a MBA would look with this display....
ps61318
@Monty: I'm going to burst a vessel over here repressing jokes about 11" of love.
ps61318
I saw that same tiny OLED Sony TV at the Sony Style store in Pentagon City tonight -- it is ri-freaking-diculous how sharp and beautiful the picture is -- very difficult to describe in words. Amazing. Rothman speaks the truth -- OLED is the future.
martyz
I find the HD-DVD sitting on top of this Sony TV to be funny... Sony's way of rubbing in Bluray's victory?
bobtheduck
@MrBlahBlah: isn't always?
aec007
I am the walrus?
discounteggroll
The dude abides.
SeattleTed
dyaaaaaamnnnn
now just gotta wait 2-3 years
so much cool shit coming out in 2-3 years
MrBlahBlah
@Darrone: but in an lcd or plasma, the components that actually go into producing an image (backlights and whatnot) are fairly bulky, whereas in the oled tv, they are relatively nonexistent. sure you still have the inputs, power, blah blah blah in a bulky little box, but even if you threw the guts of that little box onto the back of that monitor you would have a pretty thin tv (as thin as the profile of the bezel on the plasma next to it). the electronics that feed the display don't scale the same as the guts of the actual monitor components, so you could expect to get a 50" oled tv without much bulk beyond what you see here, maybe double or something assuming all else remains the same.
adaorardor
What pushed the price of LCD's down dramatically was use as computer monitors. How much extra are people willing to pay for OLED quality? Twice as much? This is 11 inches of love for a couple grand. Sure, I would pay a couple grand to have 11 inches of love, but that is another thing entirely.
What is a realistic expectation for these screens to be within a reasonable range of LCD prices? It seems unlikely that this is going to happen for quite a few more years.
I hope I am wrong, though.
Monty
@wecanfreakit: @Parapraxis:
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling...there are rules."
johnnyabnormal
is that 1024x768?
jcy
Slap that baby on a Sony laptop!
innout3x3
Will OLED technology going to hit the computer market first (like LCD did)? Laptop screens? Desktop screens?
Shabbis
Any OLED display on a rigid substrate can't even expect to offset the marketshare that LCDs and plasma's have and will continue to have. By the time OLED displays above 27" are brought to market, LCD prices for the same size screens will be that much more affordable (and have faster response times).
The game will change with flexible/rollable tech.
OLEDRevolution
I thought oleds had a pretty finite life (less than plasma) wouldnt this make a poor candidate for a tv?
teqsun.com
Has everyone given up on FED/SED already?
Mandatory_Field
Goddammit, I didn't watch my friends die face down in 'nam to have this guy breaking the rules!
Parapraxis
I would love to have a 65" OLED TV right now for unde $4K.
Sadly I'm dreaming, because it will not happen for another at least 3 years (in size- maybe) and 5+ years (in price - for sure).
These OLED TV's (when large) are going to have 5 figure pricing for years to come.
Today's top of the line plasma in the 60"+ range are ~ $9K+.
Soooooo... How's Mitsubishi's Laser TV doing these days?
How thin are they going to be?... How Much mula they'll command?
I heard they'll be available at the end of 2008....
Bueller...Bueller?
aec007
what was the resolution and pixel density on this demo????
matto
@Gary_7vn: Pardon me, but if you have a box that is 8 inches wide, then its absolutely pointless to make a 1/2 inch width screen. I mean, realistically, the unit is still 8 inches. Sure, you can marvel at how "awesomely" thin it is, but it still leaves an 8 inch footprint.
Yes, it's not a finished product, but the only thing it appears to be offering is picture quality.
Darrone
Come on, 11 inches is plenty big! We just need to start sitting way closer to our TV's. Duh.
sorensilk
@Darrone: It's attached to an ugly box because you still need a power supply and a place for inputs/outputs. Way too soon to talk about oled being a perfect tv. There are still quite a few issues to be resolved. Size, burn-in, short life, etc. Oh yeah and price... Give it about 3-4 years before it's ready for consumer market and by that time there will definitely be something way better. This never ends.
cygnusx8
smokey shouldn't have stepped over the line...
"mark it a zero dude"
wecanfreakit
I just bought a 32in Samsung LCD six months ago. NOW you tell me! ROTHMAAAAAAN!
ninjagin
i'd settle for 32 inches OLED style. Maybe 20" if it were a computer monitor and (i have no idea what i'm talking about regarding OLED) had high enough resolution (like 1680 x 1050 for example)
rainfever
@Darrone: The screen is thin, but the electronics have to go somewhere. They could have bolted them on the back, but then we would not see all that razor thin goodness.
Gary_7vn
"Sony will drive OLED"
Let's just hope they put most of the money from their share of the Blu-Ray win into this. At least, that's what I'd do if I ran Sony.
CubFan81
I have seen this in real life and Giz is right. The future is OLED. It's like looking out a window. Stunning.
The price is insane, here in Canada, at the Sony Store, they go for $2400!
Gary_7vn
Can I ask why its attached to a monstrous (comparatively) and ugly box?
Darrone
it will be great in 5-7 yrs when these are affordable, and larger.
unlikelee
the future is here!
well... at least this little bit of it
time to buy some more Universal Display stock
jtan
Damn! I might have been the first to post, but I spent too many minutes laughing uncontrollably at that sublimely captioned photo.
bosskev
Send one to me so I may review it. Yepper. :D
NDub
i saw one of these at a sony store and the PQ was simply amazing
f0rge
Has the world gone crazy?!!! Am I the only one around here who gives a shit about the rules?!!!!!
jetexas
11 inches is perfect for an even THINNER Vaio.
Watch Sony soon slip four of 'em in a manila. :-p
Grandma pressed flowers in the pages of her books, we'll be pressing lappys. ^_^
...Ok, I'm over exaggerating but who knows. ;-)
Grangoire
The only reason that it is so thin is because the hardware is in the base, which they can afford to do in something of this size.
RetepNamenots
...a natural, zesty enterprise.
alienresident
If it was 499 instead of 2499 then it would be great for screens in the car when watching movies. Too bad they haven't made a touch screen version yet.
daftrok
I like it a lot. The only problem is, its smaller then my PS3!
Phantommizzi
it will take at least ten years for OLED to be price and size competitive with LCD in the TV market. Where OLED will really shine is in the small display market. OLED is better suited for small screen manufacturing. It also consumes less power, and has better outdoor visibility. The lack of a backlight means less strain on your eyes, which is even more important in the small display market, since you are holding it closer to your face. Oh, and it is super thin. Seriously, I'm surprised you didn't accidentally cut yourself on that TV. Or did they give you special gloves?
labrats5
screw that. I'm just fine with my 5265f sammy!
DrChaos
@CubFan81: If you ran sony'd you know they don't own Blu-Ray therefore didn't get some windfall from it winning, except for being able to sell their products.
dangj307
@Bantam: Well, that whole movie is a good quote. Along with "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" and "Repo Man".
johnnyabnormal
I've seen pictures of these around for a while now.
I didn't realize they were so tiny.
The design makes much more sense given the small size.
Dillenger69
@ johnnyabnormal
thank you for using the proper and perfect quote for these pictures.
Also for people that haven't seen The big Lebowski, see it...
Bantam
@Darrone: Even if you attach that box to the back of the screen, it is still thinner than most LCD TVs. Also, at such a small size, the box is thicker than it would be on a larger TV. All the components have to be crammed in. If you attached that box to the back of a 32" TV and spread out the components, it would be uber thin. Besides, like you mentioned, this is really more of a proof of concept. They are simply showing the possibilities of this TV. Then again, with how light the actual screen would be, they could just design the unit so that the box actually doubles as a reticulating wall mount. That would be cool.
YOBNAFgniliec
I thought Samsung showed a 30 incher at CES this year?
Milstar