@nutbastard: you have to know people, i have the official dvd in my hands right now.

masteroffm

@SomeoneUKno:
I don't keep up on these Vistabominations much, sorry :)

nutbastard

@nutbastard: Release Candidate... Hellllllooooooo.... I had it too but got tired of my system BSOD'ing every 45 minutes (no exageration.)

SomeoneUKno

Yay! I can put it on my laptop... When it gets back from the shop with a new graphics chip in it.... Fucking thing went out in the middle of my class last week.

SomeoneUKno

@danz32:
and how did you acquire SP1... before it's released?

nutbastard

@VNSROCK:
"Once you've had Mac, your homosexuality level increases irreversibly."

Seriously their tag line should be more bad-ass:
"Get your Mac on, bitches."

daftrok

@NNTPgrip: Careful, you know what they say "once you've had Mac..."

VNSROCK

@Lester56:

hahahaha. nice one.

theconqueror

I ordered a new Dell, but it hasn't shipped yet ... I wonder if it will have SP1 pre-installed. That would be convenient.

Brock

The thing I love most about Vista, is that new applications for XP will likely exist for years to come.

Kaiser-Machead

I've been happy with Vista, and SP1 seems to make it better. Looking at the Reliability and Performance Monitor (built in with Vista) shows a System Stability Chart. I installed SP1 on 2/21, and the last error (of any kind) on my computer was on 2/18. For any OS or any computer, having NO errors for a month is excellent!

danz32

I have high hopes for Microsoft although I am indeed a Mac user as of 1996. I think they have a huge potential to be a great company if only they would get rid of the management. Not that its an easy 1, 2, 3 deal but its definitely a step in the right direction for them to do so. As for Vista, I am hoping this SP1 update gives enough cause for me to grab up a copy to dual boot for development use. It'd be nice to run 3 OS's for testing.

imTheKing

I must be the only person who's Vista (Home Premium) laptop doesn't have any problems. It's a run of the mill Toshiba A135-S4527, but it does have 2GB RAM in it. I don't use it that often as I have a handful of other machines, but it works great in the living room hooked up the the TV. I had to turn off the User Account funKiness, but otherwise it's worked well.

Since I haven't had problems, I will hold off on installing that SP1 and see how others fare first. I hope it helps those with problems though.

vagrant

@NNTPgrip:
"The fix is a new machine that is a year or two more powerful, that way it can deal with the overhead involved."

That's how you fix ALL shitty programming / poor resource management - add more resources!

nutbastard

@andrelix: @some_stupid_nut: These are the results of constant DRM checking. They will never fix this. The fix is a new machine that is a year or two more powerful, that way it can deal with the overhead involved.

Cross your fingers that your manufacturer has not been pressured into NOT offering XP drivers for your hardware, grab them from their website, burn their installs to disc. Then install XP and enjoy your machine, and all the speed, stability, and compatibility is has to offer.

NNTPgrip

@andrelix: Thats actually the number 1 (i would say only) improvement. It increases file copying by like 10 percent. Not exactly launching it out of a cannon, but noticeable with large files.

Darrone

I'm still not migrating our company. I won't even try it at home again until SP2.

I'll pass for now on Server 2008(I guess I'm not a "Hero" who wants "Hyper-V") like I have done with Exchange 2007.

Vista with its next to no new features and extra bloat does not make it worth even ONE incompatibility. XP weirdness early on was tolerated, as it brought everyone to NT(although they could have done that with 2000). 9x kernel with it's DOS underpinnings needed to go. Now the only reason to upgrade is to keep up with Microsoft's "Product Life Cycle". They should open source a product when they drop support for it. I had to use a third-party script to prepare my Windows 2000 clients and servers for the new Daylight Savings Time Schedule(I wonder how many they got to upgrade over such a small thing)

I just got around to updating my MCSE Cert to 2003, and I bought a MacBook to celebrate passing the final exam. I think my loyalty is shifting.

NNTPgrip

@ some_stupid_nut: My buddy has that problem with his laptop running Vista.
Nothing seems to fix it.

strider_mt2k

I hope this fixes the audio stuttering problem. I just got a new laptop with Vista and it is stuttering all the time. It makes me sad.

some_stupid_nut

I thought this came out already. Longhorn is gonna debut before this does.

Joseph

Ok, now for the important question, when is XP SP3 available?

Lester56

This will decide if I switch back to XP. I'll miss the look of Vista...

solartaco

I hope this addresses some of the speed problems I am having copying across my network and to USB...

andrelix

Who cares? I'll be rocking XP Home until the day they stop supporting it and force Vista apon me.

seym0ur caKe

It's about time (well, that is if it comes out tomorrow).

11hawkinst

"Makes using your pc more rewarding than ever".
No comment

SchruteBuck

Good O!
I say keep working on it so it's ready by the time my machine dies and I'm forced into it.

strider_mt2k

All I can say is the direct link I got from a SP1 whitepaper direct from MS isn't working right very well right now...
[go.microsoft.com]

Geisrud

That's sweet that it might be out tomorrow. Though, in my opinion, it doesn't really need a service pack, except for the transfer files speed.
Other than that there is absolutely nothing wrong with Vista. The best operating system out there right now I'd say. I am quite fond of Ubuntu though.
-LoganC-

LoganC

@nutbastard

Microsoft accidentally (I guess) released it via Windows Update before pulling it. I was under the impression they had released it to 64-bit users earlier than the 32-bit counterparts. I think Giz ran a story about it the night it happened

danz32

@vagrant: No, you are not the only one who has Vista with no problems. I've said before, I like Vista and so do many others. You can't believe the hype. All media survives on hype. Once actual data is revealed and real research conducted, you would find a great number of people who like Vista; they just happened to be conveniently ignored for the sake of maintaining the hype.

berribrand

Announcement: your perfect XP-rated girlfriend who dumped you in a second for some Visa maxed out jerk has been dumped in turn, so now she's calling you again, having caught the same Vista Transmittable Disease you got treated for last time. What do you do? She is so MicroSOFT, so flashy, so slow to get your jokes. We'll be the Pirate Twins again, she says, as she puts on hold five times in twenty minutes. But now you are a Mac daddy, so you invite her over for a last goodbye crash.

NikFromNYC

@NikFromNYC: What the hell are you talking about?

Dirk

Not for me. I'm on MSDN and Vista SP1 has been available to me for over a month. I tried it on my laptop and the fixes it does provide are mediocre at best. Even worse than that, other software makers have been working around the Vista bugs and now that some of the bugs are fixed, previously released software may be broken by SP1. I certainly didn't think SP1 helped in any way: same sluggish performance; same buggy networking stack; and it had the same flaky issues where a lot of software doesn't work quite like it's supposed to.

Vista is the worst screw up in Microsoft history. Give me XP sp3, already.

drsmith