Ubuntu rocks! I can't wait for the release of Hairy Hardon......I mean Hardy Heron. They should really name these things better though.

CribbageLeft

Read the article and Vista did NOT get hacked... Adobe Flash running on Vista did though...

And also a bug/vunerability was disclosed for Linux but bascially the hacker said he was to 'lazy' to create the hack.

LJKelley

@ACDlite: yeah, cause Macs rule and PCs suck and Bill Gates is the Devil and Mac OS X is the best operating system that has ever been created by man.

shut up, dude.

mrhammerstein

Flame war commencing in 3... 2... 1...

Evangelion

Mac OS X has by far more eye candy and Apple has some pretty computers out there but by no means is it more secure than Windows, people just don't waste their time in it because the amount of users that would be affected are just not enough.

Now linux in the other hand kicks ass...

WD40

I call Bias.

spaceman7

@akmarksman:
Yeah, cause Macs suck and PCs rule and Steve Jobs is the Devil and Windows Vista is the best operating system that has ever been created by man.

Shut up, dude.

ACDlite

meh - at least in practical every day life no one is interested in the mac platform enough to really attack it... at least not that I've seen in my last 10 years of mac ownership.

forrestcook

@akmarksman:
No you didn't.

Dook_In_The_Urinal

Long live the Penguin!

Now, if only I could figure out how to use this silly USB wireless adapter in Ubuntu. Hmm

MasterSauce

awesome. I knew the mac would be the first to go.

akmarksman

@Evangelion:

Don't you mean the Infinite war?

Kyang

Lets get this straight - OSX and Linux are FAR technically superior to Vista, because both are based on the super-duperness which is Unix and we know that Unix is a standard that has been around for years and that many businesses rely on. That and all of your servers run it.

Devezu

OS X sucks, so does Vista, so does Linux. All of you need to STFU. I use OS X but I also don't have uber-sensitive data to protect so I don't really care. If you're worried about security, you should request OpenBSD at the next competition.

It should be noted that Vista was running SP1. Just an FYI.

TJ

Blah blah OSX Sucks.. Blah blah Blah Vista sucks..
Both of you STFU..
Stupid Noobs!

DJJS

@Kyang: lol! Well, Infinite War does have a good ring to it...

Evangelion

darwin is open

jkr

@spaceman7: How is that exactly?

solOptimus

someday someone will create a perfect operating system and people will be pissed cuz there won't be anything pointless left to argue about on interweb forums

oldmanstan

So an OSX machine is no more secure when it comes to 'stupid user' hacks than a Vista machine and they all cheerfully defeated everything thrown at them until that point.

Thus confirming what everyone knows: You're safe no matter what you use unless you're stupid.

Sleeper_Service

@ACDlite:

Jesus christ calm down. You sound like a mac fanboy.

NutManIV

@Devezu:
And... OSX still got hacked. So to the end user, the result is the same. So much for Mac being inherently safer than Windows; this proves once and for all that Mac is only safe so far because there isn't enough interest in it.

stopcrazypp

I call fail, they could at least have removed the Vista sticker from the palmrest of the Vaio.

qupada

And you poked fun at the Vaio TZ at the Macbook Air's launch Steve Jobs, oh you silly goose you. : )

ninjakamster

"Some of the show's 400 attendees had found bugs in the Linux operating system, she said, but many of them didn't want to put the work into developing the exploit code that would be required to win the contest."

Linux was crackable, but no one wanted a Vaio badly enough.

And the VMWare hack on Vista would affect both Linux and OSX.

In the end, everyone lost.

diabolusunknown

@Dook_In_The_Urinal:
i was betting on the mac to be the first to go, since it fell last year through a quicktime exploit. this year it's a safari exploit.

i avoid apple software like the plague. thank goodness for quicktime alternative.

willyolio

Well lunix is really coming out strong especially with that home server coming out. Its already becoming a major OS especially with the green pc i think its called also with walmart pushing for lunix equipped pc's to be sold.
Lets see what lunix can really do now =]. GO LUNIX!!!!!!!

SneakerFiend

@jkr: THANK YOU!

N@tedog

Read the article noobs. OSX was easiest. All the OSs could have been hacked but the contestants were too lazy to do so:
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"The flaw [for Vista] is in something else, but the inherent nature of Java allowed us to get around the protections that Microsoft had in place," he said in an interview shortly after he claimed his prize Friday. "This could affect Linux or Mac OS X."

Some of the show's 400 attendees had found bugs in the Linux operating system, she said, but many of them didn't want to put the work into developing the exploit code that would be required to win the contest.

Earlier, Miller said that he chose to hack the Mac because he thought it would be easiest target. Vista hacker Macaulay didn't dispute that assertion: "I think it might be," he said.
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They hackers themselves said the Mac was easier to hack. Read people..

N@tedog

the whole point of this contest is to make the OSes more secure, by exposing vulnerabilities, so in essence we all won.

jkr

mac is linux via darwin. Or atleast an opensource version of unix, if you want to split hairs. Looks like bottom line, no matter how well you plug the holes in an OS, installed programs can punch a few new ones in.

jkr

So, if I'm using Firefox and VLC, should I care? :P

Kaiser-Machead

@jkr: Fair enough. I still think he hacked it just cuz he wanted it. I MEAN REALLY. Who doesn't want one? I just wish it had a smaller footprint. Why couldn't they do an EEE PC sized device?

smackswell

@smackswell: refer to 2 posts above yours

jkr

This whole contest is dumb. The MBA was hacked first because Mr. Hacker wanted an MBA. Plain and simple. Ubuntu WASN'T hacked because these guys all <3 Open Source software.

Toss a Mac Mini into the competition next year and i'm sure Vista will fall first.

smackswell

@smackswell: oh, I completely agree with you. He singled out the mac. Probably since Mac doesn't get the attention that windows gets in this area. Or that Apple has had some arrogant commercials about how secure it is. This is just conjecture of course. But from what has been said here, it wasn't a mac that got hacked, it was java (being really technical). Although you could say that safari is more or less integrated into the OS, so the OS really did get hacked. But it's kind of a rationalization. I like Linux, and I'm amazed that it can survive. It really does show a sense of goodwill towards others.

jkr

people love macs too much to actually hack them!

kevman90

Linux are hard to hack cause no one really knows how it works!

Palestina

@smackswell:

Your logic is astounding and not in a good way.

Sleeper_Service

I have an Amiga 3000 running in my basement -- hack that, bitches!

Just for a point of comparison:
Day 1 - Remove code execution day, and none of the laptops were hacked.

Day 2 - Hack anything that is installed in the OS by default. Only OS X was hacked (within a few minutes, apparently).

Day 3 - Third party programs could be hacked. Windows Vista was brought down quickly.

And no one managed to find a way to hack Ubuntu. Of course, day 3 was a bit unfair since there is no third party software for Linux.

(I hope I have offended everyone with this post. That was my goal.)

Monty

@Monty:
The 3rd party app used to hack vista is flash, and flash is available for Ubuntu.
@jkr: OSX is not Linux, its Unix, they are different

clevin

Honestly, I really don't quite care which was hacked first. And more importantly, it's silly to argue which OS is better.

Personally, I have used both (currently using OS X). I have seen just as many frustrating crashes and limitations with OS X as I ever have with XP or Vista. Neither OS is perfect, but it really should just come down to which you prefer to use.

Kilcannon

@clevin: to quote myself "...mac is Linux via darwin. Or at least an open source version of Unix, if you want to split hairs." Linux is Unix, it's an open source version of Unix. Why is it Unix, because it adheres to the Unix Standard, because programs are inter-operable among different Unix like OSes.

jkr

YAY!

i knew linux wouldnt be hackable...! a winrar is penguin!

now we can all hate apple together.

mrbob1000

@smackswell: I wouldn't take an MBA. ...even if you paid me. Those endless, arrogant Mac vs. PC commercials have annoyed me to no end. By the way, the kid won money also. If he wanted a certain laptop, he would have hacked the least secure to win the most. I will take a Lenovo X300 if you're giving laptops away though...

I'm glad Linux won... They deserve it the most. Apple is just getting back the bad kharma they put out.

PynkFloydd

::march of the penguins joke::

Solomon Grundy

@PynkFloydd: Go to an Apple store one of these days and actually check it out. Apple makes nice devices, no matter how you feel about them.

smackswell

"They couldn't hack Linux because no one on the newsgroups would help them." har har

torched

how did an article on linux turn into an apple fanboy bitching contest? seriously guys, you lost, deal with it.

mwalker05

LINUX IS THE CONDOM OF THE INTERNET. MACINTRASH SUCKS AND I REALLY DONT LIKE TO CRASH ALLOT (PC) IN OTHER SIMPLE WORDS I DONT WANT TO BE HACKED IN TWO MINUTES OR AT ALL. TUX RULES!!!!!!!!!!

osnap32

@smackswell:
To be fair, if these guys loved Ubuntu and its open source so much why wouldn't they want to hack it and win it?

And secondly, its not about "whether macs get attacked in the real world or not." If it takes a skilled hacker a few minutes to get into all your personal data, do you think he'll really care what platform you're using? The truth of the matter is that the Mac obviously had some exploitable holes that it took barely any time for some one to figure out. Hopefully Mac, and Microsoft too, will take all the tips they can to lock down their platforms. As for Linux, you just keep doing that thing you do... whoever it is out there doing... things.

WhateverWorks

THE MAC WAS HACKED IN TWO MINUTES FLAT, crucial missing information guys... slight biased for you advertisers gizmodo?...

aleestma

I don't know that much about hacking, but wouldn't the Linux system be the easiest to hack into because it is open-source?

dobbybabee

@WD40:
"Mac OS X has by far more eye candy "
google "compiz fusion" for videos - ubuntu has more eye candy.

@dobbybabee:
"I don't know that much about hacking, but wouldn't the Linux system be the easiest to hack into because it is open-source?"
that's actually why it's harder to hack - all the code has been randomly scrutinized by thousands of people.

BUT all of these hacks are lame in that they require the end user to perform some specific action.

nutbastard

*DOING MY MOTHERFUCKING HAPPY DANCE*

ubuntu rocks.

nutbastard

@smackswell: I've used Apple products and don't like them. Their "I know what's best for you so, I control what your product does" system irks me. I was actually more open to Apple before they started trashing Vista, employing half-truth advertising to win over customers, and acting so elitist. That's deplorable in my book...

I might install Linux on one of my laptops though...

PynkFloydd

Once in, I can kill your mac in 3 minutes flat. Destroy all data, make it completely unusable. I think the only reason Macs are considered secure is that there is no real challenge in hacking them so the community doesn't bother. But once someone creates a true destructive Mac virus, the Cult of Mac is in for a world of hurt.

Funny how since the mac was cracked first, the test was biased, but if the PC had been cracked first, it would have been accurate... Don't drink the Cool-Aid people, even if it does taste like apple.

mor10

Actually, when reading about this contest, the guy who hacked the MBA worked on the code for two weeks and uploaded it to a website which he then visited on the MBA in order to bring down the system. So essentially it was two weeks + two minutes to bring the MBA down.
Not a fanyboy...just sayin'.

AndrewGene